Hanna Flat
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- Right now
- Taking bookingsSites offered on 9 of the next 9 nights read 15:57 UTC
- A night
- $33–$65Across the site types the agency prices
- Sites
- 67All of them booked ahead
The place
the agency’s own description · what’s there · 9 notices
In the agency’s own words
Hanna Flat Campground is a family-friendly facility nestled in the pine-covered mountains of Southern California. It offers access to a variety of outdoor recreational opportunities and a beautiful location to enjoy nature. Keep reading
Recreation
A number of hiking and biking trails are nearby, including 3.5-mile Gray's Peak Trail that connects to Hanna Flat Trail, and 10 miles of unmarked trails that lead to Coxcomb Creek. Fishing and boating at nearby Big Bear Lake are popular activities. Anglers can look forward to a catch of trout, bluegill, crappie, catfish and largemouth bass. Because of cold water temperatures and the presence of underwater obstacles near the shorelines, swimming at the lake is often discouraged.
Facilities
The campground offers over 80 single-family sites for tent or RV camping. Some sites are available on a first-come, first-served basis. Each site is equipped with a table and campfire ring with grill. Firewood is available for purchase. Vault toilets and trash collection are provided, but no hookups are available. A dump station is available at nearby Serrano Campground. A portion of the road to the campground is rough dirt , but within the campground, the roads are paved. Additional parking is available just outside of the campground.
Natural Features
The campground is located off the Rim of the World Scenic Byway in the San Bernardino Mountains. A dense pine forest covers the area, where portions of the campground are heavily shaded. Some sites offer more privacy due to thick shrub growth. The area is home to a variety of wildlife and birds. Contact Info For facility specific information, please call (909) 866-8550.
Nearby Attractions
The town of Fawnskin is less than 3 miles from the campground, offering groceries, restaurants and fuel.
Charges & Cancellations
Rules & Reservation Policies As you make travel plans that include reservations on Recreation.gov, there are standard policies that apply to most locations of which you should be aware. Do keep in mind, however, that there are many exceptions, so it is best to review reservation information listed on individual facility pages for those policies and procedures that pertain to your specific locations. Any location or activity requiring a permit or lottery will have unique requirements and policies. Please check individual facility pages for pertinent information for those sites. Booking Window For most locations, you can reserve six months in advance of your stay for individual sites and 12 months in advance for group sites. There are some exceptions, so it is best to check with each facility. Change and Cancellation Policies and Fees Overnight and Day Use Facilities: To ensure fairness, reservation arrival or departure dates may not be changed beyond the booking window until 18 days after booking the reservation. Camping / Day Use: A $10.00 service fee will apply if you change or cancel your reservation (including campsites, cabins, lookouts, group facilities, etc.). The $10.00 service fee will be deducted from the refund amount. You can cancel or change reservations through Recreation.gov or by calling 1-877-444-6777. Tours & Tickets: You may request changes to tour dates at no cost before the arrival date. If you cancel before your tour date, you may be eligible for a refund. Cancellation fees apply. Please check the tour facility description details page for cancellation policies. Permits: Varies by location. Please check the permit details for the permit location. Late Cancellations Overnight and Day Use Facilities: Late cancellations are those cancelled between 12:01 a.m. (Eastern) on the day before arrival and check out time on the day after arrival. Individual Campsites: If a customer cancels a reservation the day before or on the day of arrival they will be charged a $10.00 service fee and will also forfeit the first night's use fee (not to exceed the total paid for the original reservation). Cancellations for a single night's reservation will forfeit the entire use fee but no cancellation fee will apply. Cabins / Lookouts: Customers will be charged a $10.00 cancellation fee and forfeit the first night's use fee if a cabin or lookout reservation is cancelled within 14 days of the scheduled arrival date. Cancellations for a single night's use will not be assessed a service fee. Group Facility: If a customer cancels a group overnight facility reservation within 14 days of the scheduled arrival date they will be charged the $10.00 service fee and forfeit the first night's use fee. Cancellations for a single night's use will not be assessed a service fee. Group Day Use Area: If a customer cancels a group day use facility reservation within 14 days of the scheduled arrival date, they will forfeit the total day use fee with no service fee charge. No-Shows Camping / Day Use: A camping no-show customer is one who does not arrive at a campground and does not cancel the reservation by check-out time on the day after the scheduled arrival date. Reserved campsites and group overnight facilities will be held until check-out time on the day following your scheduled arrival. Group day-use facilities will be held until check-in time on your scheduled arrival date. If a customer does not arrive at the campground or group facility by check-out time the day after arrival or does not cancel the reservation by the times listed under "Late Cancellations" above, the customer may be assessed a $20.00 service fee and forfeit use fees. Tours: A tour or ticket no-show is one who does not cancel a ticket before arrival and does not arrive for the tour. Tour no-shows are not entitled to a refund. Refunds Customers must request refunds no later than 14 days after the scheduled departure date. Recreation.gov will not grant refund requests after 14 days of departure. Reservation Fee: For some facilities, tours or permits an additional reservation fee is charged. For some overnight and day-use facilities, an additional non-refundable reservation fee may apply. The non-refundable reservation fee for tours and tickets is $1.00. The non-refundable reservation fee for permits varies by location. Refunds for Bankcard Purchases: Refunds for bank card payments will be issued as a credit to the original bank card. Refunds for Check or Cash Purchases: Refunds for Recreation.gov payments made by check or money order, and cash payments at selected campgrounds will be issued a check refund. A refund will be processed within 30 days of receipt and approval. Please Note: Refund requests made during or after departure can only be processed when approved by the facility management staff based upon local policy. Refunds for Emergency Closures: In the event of an emergency closure, the Recreation.gov team will attempt to notify users and offer alternate dates (as appropriate). If this is not possible, reservations will be cancelled and all fees paid will be refunded. Reservation fees for free tickets are non-refundable in the event of an emergency closure. Recreation.gov Billing Information Reservation transaction will appear on customer's credit card statements as "Recreation.gov 877-444-6777." Changes to Policies and Procedures Recreation.gov reserves the right, when necessary, to modify reservation policies. These policies were last updated July
What the agency tells you
RV'S over 26 feet not recommended due to limited turn around in campground.
Bears frequent the area; use appropriate containers for food and trash
In accordance with standard industry practices, Mountain Top Recreation will be assessing a $8 additional vehicle fee per night on the second vehicle in each single family campsite, and on the third and fourth vehicles in any double family campsite, provided these vehicles are not joined to the first vehicle by a hitch and towed onto the site. In the case of motorcycles, the first two are considered to be one vehicle and the third and fourth are also considered to be one vehicle. No additional vehicle fees are collected for bicycles. The fee will be collected at the campground if you did not pay for the Extra Vehicle Add On. Extra vehicles must fit on the parking spur at your site.
Everything else this campground posts · 6
Click here for more information on the San Bernardino National Forest
Off-road vehicle use is prohibited within the campground
Don't Move Firewood: Protect California's forests from tree-killing pests by buying your firewood locally and burning it on-site. For more information visit firewood.ca.gov.
Fire restrictions may be imposed at any time due to hot, dry weather conditions, at which time campfires and charcoal fires may not be allowed
Check-in 2:00 pm and/or after. Late arrivals must occupy their reserved site no later than 4:00pm the following day. Check out time is at 12 noon.
Flush toilets are not available due to not producing enough water from the well.
Tents and rigs
- Sites
- 67 · 30 tent-only
- Hookups
- None
- Longest rig
- 28 ft
- Paved pads
- All
- Accessible sites
- None listed
- Pets
- Allowed
- Campfires
- Allowed, barring fire bans
- Shade
- Every site
Facilities
- Toilets
- Vault Toilets
- “…Firewood is available for purchase. Vault toilets and trash collection are provided, but no hookups…”
- Dump station
- Yes
- Firewood
- Sold here
- Camp host
- On site
- recreation.gov lists “Host”
- Stay limit
- 14 nights
- recreation.gov facility rule maxStay
Around the campground
- On the water
- Lake, Creek
- Biking
- Boating
- Fire Lookouts/Cabins Overnight
- Fishing
- Hiking
- Swimming
- Night sky · 1116th darkest of 1,201 in CA
- Bortle 4
Full this Saturdayread 15:57 UTC
How full the weekend is nationally.
OpenBooked
Every one of the 67 sites on offer is taken this Friday and Saturday. 65 are free on Mon, Oct 19. read 15:57 UTC Why the weekend fills and the week doesn’t
Watch for a cancellation
Watch this campground
One email when a night opens, plus More Than Just Parks dispatches. Unsubscribe any time.
We read recreation.gov once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time a site in your window is free for the nights you asked for.
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Tell me when the season opens
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One email when the season goes on sale, plus More Than Just Parks dispatches. Unsubscribe any time.
We check once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time the agency has that season on sale.
Scanners that check every few minutes exist, and most of them charge. This one is free, it reads the same calendar, and it won’t always be first.
We make nothing when you book. The link goes straight to the government.
Every line of the receipt · 15
What you actually pay
“In accordance with standard industry practices, Mountain Top Recreation will be assessing a $8 additional vehicle fee per night on the second vehicle in each single family campsite, and on the third and fourth vehicle…” · the U.S. Forest Service’s own agency notice
Derived by CAMPANAC: the agency’s published rates for this season, $33–$65 a night, plus one $8 recreation.gov reservation fee for the booking. A weekend here means Friday and Saturday night, booked once. Optional charges (an extra vehicle, a second tent, a dump-station fee) are listed separately and aren’t in this total.
“Camping / Day Use: A $10.00 service fee will apply if you change or cancel your reservation (including campsites, cabins, lookouts, group facilities, etc.). The $10.00 service fee will be deducted from the refund amount.” · this campground’s own no-show terms
Who keeps the booking fee
The agency’s own policy text says the reservation fee and the cancellation processing fee are “retained by the reservation service contractor”, and that a campground concessionaire will decline to refund them because “they did not receive these fees”. Recreation.gov is run under contract by Booz Allen Hamilton. What share of your booking fee the contractor keeps isn’t published in any federal dataset we can read, so we print no number for it. Our reporting on the contract →
How we know this receipt · 7
recreation.gov availability, read 15:57 UTC · rules read Sep 9, 2026 · rates Sep 10, 2026 · How we know all this
The sites
67 sites · which ones have room · the site map
The sites, ranked
from 67 mapped sitesAll 67 sites
Toilet distances are OpenStreetMap’s, measured for 67 of the 67 sites listed. A site with no reading is unknown, never far.
The price is derived by CAMPANAC, not published per site: the per-night rate this campground publishes for each site’s own site type. 67 of the 67 sites listed carry one, and a site whose type has no published rate sits out of the price rather than being called free.
Measured shade is NLCD Tree Canopy Cover 2024 (USDA Forest Service / MRLC) read at the site’s own coordinate, 27% canopy or more, and only for the sites the agency gave no Shade value. It never changes the agency’s own shaded count beside it.
| HANN | 001 | standard nonelectric | 20 ft | 36 ft | 3,950 ft | 122 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 002 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 36 ft | 3,965 ft | 155 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 003 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 18 ft | 4,007 ft | 181 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 004 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 18 ft | 4,016 ft | 198 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 005 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 27 ft | 4,084 ft | 264 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 006 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 27 ft | 4,096 ft | 264 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 007 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 45 ft | 4,181 ft | 252 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 008 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 45 ft | 4,217 ft | 207 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 009 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 56 ft | 4,274 ft | 159 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 010 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 24 ft | 4,406 ft | 131 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 011 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 24 ft | 4,430 ft | 132 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 012 | standard nonelectric | 24 ft | 32 ft | 4,429 ft | 163 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 015 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 87 ft | 4,475 ft | 117 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 017 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 96 ft | 4,494 ftHolcomb Creek | 33 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 018 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 170 ft | 4,387 ftHolcomb Creek | 142 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 024 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 180 ft | 4,278 ftHolcomb Creek | 187 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 033 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 42 ft | 4,331 ftHolcomb Creek | 196 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 034 | standard nonelectric | 24 ft | 42 ft | 4,368 ftHolcomb Creek | 154 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 036 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 40 ft | 4,221 ft | 237 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 037 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 17 ft | 4,183 ft | 255 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 038 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 17 ft | 4,181 ft | 267 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 039 | standard nonelectric | 24 ft | 30 ft | 4,048 ft | 209 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 040 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 30 ft | 4,043 ft | 215 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 041 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 63 ft | 3,981 ft | 154 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 042 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 109 ft | 3,877 ft | 113 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 045 | standard nonelectric | 28 ft | 112 ft | 3,821 ft | 38 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 046 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 58 ft | 3,877 ft | 129 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 047 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 55 ft | 3,892 ft | 187 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 048 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 38 ft | 3,876 ft | 166 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 049 | standard nonelectric | 25 ft | 38 ft | 3,840 ft | 129 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 050 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 19 ft | 3,660 ft | 83 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 051 | standard nonelectric | 25 ft | 19 ft | 3,663 ft | 68 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 052 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 20 ft | 3,574 ft | 150 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 053 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 20 ft | 3,573 ft | 158 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 054 | standard nonelectric | 25 ft | 58 ft | 3,411 ft | 139 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 055 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 18 ft | 3,529 ft | 201 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 056 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 18 ft | 3,536 ft | 188 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 057 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 58 ft | 3,468 ft | 198 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 058 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 52 ft | 3,367 ft | 141 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 059 | standard nonelectric | 25 ft | 19 ft | 3,325 ft | 144 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 060 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 19 ft | 3,331 ft | 163 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 061 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 119 ft | 3,206 ft | 149 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 062 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 44 ft | 3,156 ft | 122 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 063 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 53 ft | 3,145 ft | 163 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 064 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 46 ft | 3,106 ft | 216 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 065 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 31 ft | 3,073 ft | 197 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 066 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 31 ft | 3,100 ft | 186 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 067 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 82 ft | 3,041 ft | 198 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 068/069 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 87 ft | 3,135 ft | 117 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 070 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 87 ft | 3,222 ft | 56 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 071 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 122 ft | 3,341 ft | 82 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 072 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 71 ft | 3,482 ft | 218 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 073 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 68 ft | 3,500 ft | 244 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 074 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 57 ft | 3,566 ft | 297 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 075 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 57 ft | 3,584 ft | 299 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 076 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 51 ft | 3,690 ft | 188 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 077 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 51 ft | 3,678 ft | 180 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 078 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 63 ft | 3,738 ft | 117 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 079 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 44 ft | 3,199 ft | 78 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 081 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 53 ft | 3,247 ft | 50 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 082 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 48 ft | 3,316 ft | 80 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 083 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 48 ft | 3,364 ft | 115 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 084 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 13 ft | 3,533 ft | 277 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 085 | standard nonelectric | 20 ft | 13 ft | 3,523 ft | 271 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 086 | standard nonelectric | 26 ft | 77 ft | 3,612 ft | 245 ft | $33–$65 |
| HANN | 087 | tent only nonelectric | 20 ft | 7 ft | 3,693 ft | 163 ft | $33 |
| HANN | 088 | standard nonelectric | 25 ft | 7 ft | 3,688 ft | 168 ft | $33–$65 |
25 of 67 listed
Getting there
the map and the coordinate · the agency’s directions · the phone number
Where it is
Grays Peak Group CampSan Bernardino National Forest · 1.0 mi
Ironwood Group CampSan Bernardino National Forest · 2.5 mi
Big Pine Equestrian Group CampgroundSan Bernardino National Forest · 3.1 mi
Serrano Family CampgroundSan Bernardino National Forest · 3.8 mi
SerranoSan Bernardino National Forest · 4.0 mi
Bluff Mesa Group CampSan Bernardino National Forest · 4.4 miTravel east on I10 (Highway 330) to Running Springs. Turn onto Highway 18 and continue to Big Bear Lake Dam but do not cross the dam. Highway 18 becomes Highway 38. Continue to the Fawnskin Fire Station and turn left onto Rim of the World Drive (Forest Route 3N14) and drive 2.5 miles to the campground. More than a mile of the road is rough, dirt terrain that may be impassable for large RVs or trailers.
The weather
the next four days · the thirty-year normal
Next four days, and the thirty-year normal
Forecast
NWS forecast for Big Bear Lake, CA
Typical weather
Typical October night 35°F, day 63°F.
Coldest month of the year: typical December night 24°F, below freezing. Bring a bag rated colder than that, and expect ice in the water bottle.
Daily high and lowDays with 0.10 in or more
A normal is the 1991-2020 average for the month, not a forecast: about half of all Julys are colder than the July line. The seven-day forecast above answers the other question.
The land, and who answers for it
what threatens it · who answers for it · a letter you can send
Roadless country, and what’s coming for it
You’re camping on ground somebody wants. We track the threats and the comment deadlines.
Who answers for this land
Hanna Flat is in California’s 23rd congressional district. Its representative, Jay Obernolte (R), votes on the laws that decide what happens to this land. Public-lands grade so far: F. See every public-lands vote →
Who can change it · 3
Two offices, two different asks. The draft to the agency asks it to set aside a published share of the sites here for whoever drives up. The draft to Congress asks why that share is zero and presses for a published minimum at the campgrounds it funds.
- The member who votes the moneyJay ObernolteU.S. Representative · California’s 23rd district
- Your senator, on the same appropriationAdam B. SchiffU.S. Senator · California
- Your senator, on the same appropriationAlex PadillaU.S. Senator · California
Read the draft, or change the wording
For the camper who turned up, or tried to book, and couldn’t get in. Every draft is written from this campground’s own record (its agency, its unit, its site count and its own weekend) and the buttons above copy whichever wording is selected here.
Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.
Subject Walk-up camping at Hanna Flat, San Bernardino National Forest, California
Dear Jay Obernolte, I’m a constituent in California’s 23rd district. I tried to camp at Hanna Flat, San Bernardino National Forest, California, and couldn’t. All 67 sites at Hanna Flat are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, all 67 sites recreation.gov was offering there were already booked. 1,623 of the 7,639 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. Hanna Flat keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule. I’m not asking you to run Hanna Flat. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund. The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them. Sent about Hanna Flat (San Bernardino National Forest, California) via campanac.com
Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.
Subject Walk-up camping at Hanna Flat, San Bernardino National Forest, California
Dear Adam B. Schiff, I’m a constituent in California. I tried to camp at Hanna Flat, San Bernardino National Forest, California, and couldn’t. All 67 sites at Hanna Flat are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, all 67 sites recreation.gov was offering there were already booked. 1,623 of the 7,639 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. Hanna Flat keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule. I’m not asking you to run Hanna Flat. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund. The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them. Sent about Hanna Flat (San Bernardino National Forest, California) via campanac.com
Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.
Subject Walk-up camping at Hanna Flat, San Bernardino National Forest, California
Dear Alex Padilla, I’m a constituent in California. I tried to camp at Hanna Flat, San Bernardino National Forest, California, and couldn’t. All 67 sites at Hanna Flat are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, all 67 sites recreation.gov was offering there were already booked. 1,623 of the 7,639 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. Hanna Flat keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule. I’m not asking you to run Hanna Flat. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund. The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them. Sent about Hanna Flat (San Bernardino National Forest, California) via campanac.com