U.S. Forest Service · AZ

Lower Lake Mary Ramadas

Day use, not campingThe agency files 3 records here and marks every one of them day use, not overnight. On its own record there’s nothing here to spend the night in.

This place has sites and nobody may sleep in them.Ask for camping here →

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Right now
Nobody has saidNo season, no closure, no bookings to read

The place

the agency’s own description · what’s there · 4 notices

In the agency’s own words

When there is water in the lake, the fishing is good. There is a ramp onsite for non motorized boats. Hiking, kite flying, bird and wildlife watching are poplar pastimes here. Keep reading

Facilities

Picnic tables: Cooking grills with shade ramadas; Ramadas and Picnic Tables available for reservation

What the agency tells you

Rule

There are 3 Ramadas available for reservations on a daily basis, parking for up to 5 vehicles is included in the rate.

Rule

Day use is also available here. Prices are $12.00/car - $3.00/motorcycle, bike, or walkup.

Rule

hours are 7:00am to 7:00pm daily. There is a host onsite.

Everything else this campground posts · 1
Rule

This is a day use area only. No overnight camping is available.

Read them on the agency’s own page →

Facilities

Camp host
On site
recreation.gov lists “Host”
Source: recreation.gov facility record · Sep 9, 2026

Around the campground

On the water
Lake
Source: Stated in the agency description · Aug 23, 2026

Nothing here to sleep in

The agency files 3 records here and marks every one of them day use, not overnight. On its own record there’s nothing here to spend the night in.

No availability snapshot inside the last 36 hours, so this page draws nothing rather than ageing a reading into fiction.

Booking windowOut of seasonOut of season, no booking. On October 30, 2026 at 10 AM ET, availability opens through April 30, 2027.recreation.govAdd to calendar (.ics)
Sites, a night, from$50From the rate schedule matched to 3 of its 3 sites. U.S. Forest Service publishes no campground-level rate we can read.derived by CAMPANAC
If plans change$10 to cancel$10 to change a reservationrecreation.gov’s schedule
Runs itU.S. Forest ServiceBooked through recreation.govthe agency’s record
Watch for a cancellation

Full? Watch it.

One email when a night opens, plus More Than Just Parks dispatches. Unsubscribe any time.

We read recreation.gov once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time a site in your window is free for the nights you asked for.

Scanners that check every few minutes exist, and most of them charge. This one is free, it reads the same calendar, and it won’t always be first.

Free forever, no booking kickbacks.
Tell me when the season opens

Watch for the season to open

One email when the season goes on sale, plus More Than Just Parks dispatches. Unsubscribe any time.

We check once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time the agency has that season on sale.

Scanners that check every few minutes exist, and most of them charge. This one is free, it reads the same calendar, and it won’t always be first.

We’ll write once, when the season that starts Fri, Apr 30 2027 is open for booking.

Free forever, no booking kickbacks.
Book on recreation.gov

We make nothing when you book. The link goes straight to the government.

Every line of the receipt · 12

What you actually pay

The sign priceU.S. Forest Service
Sites, a night, from$50
Derived by CAMPANAC from the rate schedule matched to 3 of its 3 sites. U.S. Forest Service publishes no campground-level rate for this campground that we can read, only per-site rate templates its own record matches to each site’s own type.
Group area, a night$50
Rates for the season the campground is in now, May 1, 2026 to Oct 11, 2026.
The booking feerecreation.gov
Reservation fee, booked online$8
One fee per reservation, however many nights you book, and it’s non-refundable. $9 if you book by phone, $3 in person.
Pass discounts only apply to the recreation (or use) fee for the facility. Other charges such as electricity or water hookups, reservation or other fees are not eligible for a discount.
What a stay costs
The agency publishes no nightly rate for this campground, so there’s nothing to add the $8 booking fee to. We won’t total a receipt with a number missing from it.
If your plans changerecreation.gov
Change fee, moving to dates outside your booking$10
Cancellation fee$10
Cancelling the day before, or the day of$10 + your first night
No-show$20 + your first night

Who keeps the booking fee

The agency’s own policy text says the reservation fee and the cancellation processing fee are “retained by the reservation service contractor”, and that a campground concessionaire will decline to refund them because “they did not receive these fees”. Recreation.gov is run under contract by Booz Allen Hamilton. What share of your booking fee the contractor keeps isn’t published in any federal dataset we can read, so we print no number for it. Our reporting on the contract →

How we know this receipt · 5

rules read Sep 9, 2026 · rates Sep 10, 2026 · How we know all this

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The sites

3 records

All 3 records

Lake Mary RamadasRamada 1day useyes$50
Lake Mary RamadasRamada 2day useyes$50
Lake Mary RamadasRamada 3day useyes$50

The agency files 3 more records here that aren’t sites for the night. It files them as day use. They’re in the table above, marked for what they are, and none of them is counted as a site.

Getting there

the agency’s directions · the phone number
The phone928-774-9671
The agency’s pageOfficial page ↗

The weather

Next four days, and the thirty-year normal

The land, and who answers for it

a letter you can send
Who can change it · 2
Ask whether this could be a place to sleep

The agency’s own record files sites here and marks every one of them day use. The draft asks whether any could open to overnight camping, and if not, why.

  • Your senator, on the same appropriationMark KellyU.S. Senator · Arizona
  • Your senator, on the same appropriationRuben GallegoU.S. Senator · Arizona

    No contact form we could verify, so that link is their own site. Contact is inside it. Washington office: 202-224-4521.

Read the draft, or change the wording
To Mark Kelly

Asks them to put the same question to the agency in writing.

Subject Lower Lake Mary Ramadas has sites, and nobody may sleep in them

Dear Mark Kelly,

I’m a constituent in Arizona. Lower Lake Mary Ramadas, Arizona carries 3 records on the U.S. Forest Service’s own file, every one of them marked day use rather than overnight.

I’m asking you to put one question to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: would they consider opening any of these sites to overnight camping, and if not, why not?

Road trips and camping on public land are part of how this country knows itself. It’s where a lot of people meet the place they live in for the first time, and it has never been something you had to be well off, or well organised six months in advance, to do.

Sent about Lower Lake Mary Ramadas (Arizona) via campanac.com
To Ruben Gallego

Asks them to put the same question to the agency in writing.

Subject Lower Lake Mary Ramadas has sites, and nobody may sleep in them

Dear Ruben Gallego,

I’m a constituent in Arizona. Lower Lake Mary Ramadas, Arizona carries 3 records on the U.S. Forest Service’s own file, every one of them marked day use rather than overnight.

I’m asking you to put one question to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: would they consider opening any of these sites to overnight camping, and if not, why not?

Road trips and camping on public land are part of how this country knows itself. It’s where a lot of people meet the place they live in for the first time, and it has never been something you had to be well off, or well organised six months in advance, to do.

Sent about Lower Lake Mary Ramadas (Arizona) via campanac.com
How we know this · 4
The figures in these drafts: Navy Ford (CVN-78) Class Aircraft Carrier Program: Background and Issues for Congress (CRS Report RS20643) · Updated December 4, 2025 · “The ship’s final procurement cost was $13,316.5 million (i.e., about $13.3 billion) in then-year dollars.”
The figures in these drafts: Salary Table 2026-GS, Incorporating the 1% General Schedule Increase, Effective January 2026 (U.S. Office of Personnel Management) · Effective January 2026 · “Grade 5, Step 1: $34,799 (annual rate, before locality pay).”
The figures in these drafts: Update to Civilian Position Full Fringe Benefit Cost Factor, Federal Pay Raise Assumptions, and Inflation Factors used in OMB Circular No. A-76 (OMB Memorandum M-08-13) · March 11, 2008 · “the civilian position full fringe benefit cost factor needs to be adjusted downward, from 36.45 percent to 36.25 percent”

How we know

every fact on this page, and where it came from
Right now: U.S. Forest Service publishes no season and no closure for this campground, and it takes no bookings we can read. That’s a gap in the record and not a locked gate: the number below is the only way to be sure.
Cell signal: the Forest Service’s own campground description, read as text by CAMPANAC. None of this is a measurement. It’s what the land manager published about the place, and phones, carriers and weather all disagree with each other; treat it as a warning, not a promise.