U.S. Forest Service · Cibola National Forest · NM

PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B

Day use, not campingThe agency files 2 records here and marks every one of them day use, not overnight. On its own record there’s nothing here to spend the night in.

This place has sites and nobody may sleep in them.Ask for camping here →

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Right now
Taking bookingsSites offered on 15 of the next 15 nights read 16:37 UTC
7,250 ftElevation
5.1 miWater · an unnamed pond
1.1 miN of Ponderosa Pine, NM
28%Tree cover
Bortle 4Night sky · 161st darkest of 164 in NM

The place

the agency’s own description · what’s there · 10 notices

In the agency’s own words

Pine Flat picnic sites A & B are accessible picnic areas. They are located on State Highway 337 (James McGrane Memorial Highway or Old South 14) approximately 7 miles from I-40. State Hwy 337 runs parallel to Pine Flat picnic area making it easy to identify and enter. From the entry way to your left you will find two reserve only sites. The area is surrounded by pinon, juniper, scrub oak and ponderosa pine that lend shade to both reservation areas. Cool mountain breezes are common here. The sound of rustling foliage render Pine Flat picnic sites an excellent place to lean back, relax and maybe even take a nap. Keep reading

Each site can accommodate fifty people. Pine Flat Trailhead has pull through trailer parking in addition to regular vehicle parking, which is located to the right as you enter the gate. Follow the road south to the trailhead that leads into the Manzanita Mountains Trail system. You will also find dispersed picnic tables throughout the Pine Flat sites, which are available on a first-come, first-served basis. Pine Flat Sites A & B were built in 1956 by the Forest Service with the intent to provide picnic sites for large group use. Please take care of your public land by using Leave No Trace ethics. There is no overnight camping at this site.

Recreation

Pine Flat connector trail leads to a multiuse motorized trail system. The trail system has loops and straightaways to satisfy just about any recreationist. For more information on OHV use, consult the District Motor Vehicle Use Map.

Facilities

Please note: You must make two separate bookings for site A and B if you want to reserve both. Please verify the site you have reserved when checking out. As you enter the area, to the left you will find two reserve only sites, A and B. Both sites have grills, tables, vault toilets and bear proof trash containers. The trailering area for horse and motorcycle trailers is located to the right as you enter the gate. Follow the road south to the trailhead that leads into the Manzanita Mountains Trail system. Dispersed picnic tables are available on a first-come, first-served basis. They are located throughout the area along the east side of the Pine Flat site. Water and electricity, firewood/charcoal are not available at the site. Accessible vault toilets and bear proof trash receptacles are provided. Bears frequent the area; More about Bears and Food . Have questions? (505) 281-3304.

Natural Features

Pine Flat picnic ground is 7,240 feet in elevation. It is fairly flat which makes it easy to park a trailer and unload your OHVs or horses. Hikes in the surrounding area can vary in elevation by approximately 50-120 feet.

Nearby Attractions

The historic Cedro Cemetery and the town of Tijeras are about five miles from the picnic area.

What the agency tells you

Rule

Please note: You must make two separate bookings for site A and B if you want to reserve both. Please verify the site you have reserved when checking out.

Rule

It is recommended for visitors to make a reservation at least 48 hours in advance to give staff notice to prepare the site prior for your arrival. If reserved within 48 hours of arrival, site preparations will be subject to staffing availability.

Rule

To ensure an enjoyable stay for the next visitor, please make sure to place ALL trash in the trash cans provided and leave the site as clean as you found it.

Everything else this campground posts · 7
Rule

Water and electricity, firewood/charcoal are not available at the site. You may notice water spigots at this site, however the water lines were retired in the mid 2000s due to difficulties with freezing pipes, therefore, bring your own water.

Rule

Please DO NOT park in front of any gates. They must be accessible at all times.

Rule

Accessible vault toilets and bear proof trash receptacles are provided. Please use appropriate containers for food and garbage. Food Storage Keeping You and Bears Safe More about Bears and Food

Rule

Have questions? Contact the Sandia Ranger District Monday - Friday from 8:00am to 4:30 pm at (505) 281-3304.

Rule

Obtain firewood near your destination and burn it on-site: Don't Move Fire Wood

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Trail Map: Manzanita Mountains Trail Map

Rule

For more information about the Cibola National Forest & Grasslands: Cibola National Forest Web Page

Read them on the agency’s own page →

Facilities

Toilets
Vault Toilets
“…A and B. Both sites have grills, tables, vault toilets and bear proof trash containers. The trailering…”
Bear boxes
Yes
Firewood
Mentioned
Source: Stated in the agency description · Aug 23, 2026
Water, toilets and showers: read from the agency description, shown above · Sep 12, 2026

Around the campground

Biking
Hiking
Wildlife viewing
Fall color · reported 11 days ago, 14 km away
Patchy color
Source: Recreation.gov activity records · Aug 23, 2026
Fall color: More Than Just Parks foliage tracker, joined to this campground by distance (14 km) · Oct 6, 2026

3 of 4 site-nights open this Friday and Saturdayread 16:37 UTC

The agency files 2 records here and marks every one of them day use, not overnight. On its own record there’s nothing here to spend the night in.

OpenBooked

Booking windowThrough October 31Bookable now through October 31, 2026, the end of this reservable season, and again for May 15, 2027 through October 16, 2027. Today at 10 AM ET, availability opens through October 17, 2027.recreation.gov
Sites, a night, from$65From the rate schedule matched to 2 of its 2 sites. U.S. Forest Service publishes no campground-level rate we can read.derived by CAMPANAC
If plans change$10 to cancel$10 to change a reservationrecreation.gov’s schedule
Runs itU.S. Forest ServiceBooked through recreation.govthe agency’s record
Watch for a cancellation

Full? Watch it.

One email when a night opens, plus More Than Just Parks dispatches. Unsubscribe any time.

We read recreation.gov once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time a site in your window is free for the nights you asked for.

Scanners that check every few minutes exist, and most of them charge. This one is free, it reads the same calendar, and it won’t always be first.

Free forever, no booking kickbacks.
Tell me when the season opens

Watch for the season to open

One email when the season goes on sale, plus More Than Just Parks dispatches. Unsubscribe any time.

We check once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time the agency has that season on sale.

Scanners that check every few minutes exist, and most of them charge. This one is free, it reads the same calendar, and it won’t always be first.

We’ll write once, when the season that starts Sat, May 15 2027 is open for booking.

Free forever, no booking kickbacks.
Book on recreation.gov

We make nothing when you book. The link goes straight to the government.

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What you actually pay

The sign priceU.S. Forest Service
Sites, a night, from$65
Derived by CAMPANAC from the rate schedule matched to 2 of its 2 sites. U.S. Forest Service publishes no campground-level rate for this campground that we can read, only per-site rate templates its own record matches to each site’s own type.
Group area, a night$65
Rates for the season the campground is in now, May 15, 2026 to Oct 31, 2026.
Contact recreation.gov or 877-444-6777.
The booking feerecreation.gov
Reservation fee, booked online$8
One fee per reservation, however many nights you book, and it’s non-refundable. $9 if you book by phone, $3 in person.
Pass discounts only apply to the recreation (or use) fee for the facility. Other charges such as electricity or water hookups, reservation or other fees are not eligible for a discount.
What a stay costs
The agency publishes no nightly rate for this campground, so there’s nothing to add the $8 booking fee to. We won’t total a receipt with a number missing from it.
If your plans changerecreation.gov
Change fee, moving to dates outside your booking$10
Cancellation fee$10
Cancelling the day before, or the day of$10 + your first night
No-show$20 + your first night

Who keeps the booking fee

The agency’s own policy text says the reservation fee and the cancellation processing fee are “retained by the reservation service contractor”, and that a campground concessionaire will decline to refund them because “they did not receive these fees”. Recreation.gov is run under contract by Booz Allen Hamilton. What share of your booking fee the contractor keeps isn’t published in any federal dataset we can read, so we print no number for it. Our reporting on the contract →

How we know this receipt · 5

recreation.gov availability, read 16:37 UTC · rules read Sep 9, 2026 · rates Sep 10, 2026 · How we know all this

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The sites

2 records · the site map

All 2 records

2 of 2 records located
Day use2
Aerial · Esri World Imagery
PINE FLAT01Aday useyes5.1 mi$65
PINE FLAT01Bday useyes5.1 mi$65

The agency files 2 more records here that aren’t sites for the night. It files them as day use. They’re in the table above, marked for what they are, and none of them is counted as a site.

Getting there

the map and the coordinate · the agency’s directions · the phone number
Coordinate35.01333, -106.33556
The phone505-281-3304
The agency’s pageOfficial page ↗

Where it is

Getting there

From Albuquerque, drive east on I-40 to Tijeras Exit 175; at the traffic light drive straight ahead and continue south for 7 miles on State Road 337 (James McGrane Memorial Highway). Look for the Cibola National Forest - Pine Flat Picnic sign on the east side of the road. As you enter the picnic site, look to your left. There you will find both reserve only sites A and B.

The weather

the next four days · the thirty-year normal

Next four days, and the thirty-year normal

Forecast

Overnight28°Mostly Clear
Saturday59°Sunny
Saturday Night33°Partly Cloudy
Sunday61°Mostly Sunny4% rain

NWS forecast for Cedro, NM

Typical weather

Typical October night 35°F, day 67°F.

Coldest month of the year: typical January night 18°F, below freezing. Bring a bag rated colder than that, and expect ice in the water bottle.

100°32°10°

Daily high and lowDays with 0.10 in or more

A normal is the 1991-2020 average for the month, not a forecast: about half of all Julys are colder than the July line. The seven-day forecast above answers the other question.

Measured at: STANLEY 2 NNE, NM (USC00298518), 25 miles away and 875 ft lower

The land, and who answers for it

what threatens it · who answers for it · a letter you can send

What threatens this place

You’re camping on ground somebody wants. We track the threats and the comment deadlines.

Source: MTJP Threatened Lands map · Oct 9, 2026

Who answers for this land

Melanie Stansbury, official portrait

PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B is in New Mexico’s 1st congressional district. Its representative, Melanie Stansbury (D), votes on the laws that decide what happens to this land. Public-lands grade so far: A. See every public-lands vote →

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Who can change it · 3
Ask whether this could be a place to sleep

The agency’s own record files sites here and marks every one of them day use. The draft asks whether any could open to overnight camping, and if not, why.

Read the draft, or change the wording
To Melanie A. Stansbury

Asks them to put the same question to the agency in writing.

Subject PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B has sites, and nobody may sleep in them

Dear Melanie A. Stansbury,

I’m a constituent in New Mexico’s 1st district. PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B, Cibola National Forest, New Mexico carries 2 records on the U.S. Forest Service’s own file, every one of them marked day use rather than overnight.

I’m asking you to put one question to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: would they consider opening any of these sites to overnight camping, and if not, why not?

Road trips and camping on public land are part of how this country knows itself. It’s where a lot of people meet the place they live in for the first time, and it has never been something you had to be well off, or well organised six months in advance, to do.

Sent about PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B (Cibola National Forest, New Mexico) via campanac.com
To Ben Ray Luján

Asks them to put the same question to the agency in writing.

Subject PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B has sites, and nobody may sleep in them

Dear Ben Ray Luján,

I’m a constituent in New Mexico. PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B, Cibola National Forest, New Mexico carries 2 records on the U.S. Forest Service’s own file, every one of them marked day use rather than overnight.

I’m asking you to put one question to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: would they consider opening any of these sites to overnight camping, and if not, why not?

Road trips and camping on public land are part of how this country knows itself. It’s where a lot of people meet the place they live in for the first time, and it has never been something you had to be well off, or well organised six months in advance, to do.

Sent about PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B (Cibola National Forest, New Mexico) via campanac.com
To Martin Heinrich

Asks them to put the same question to the agency in writing.

Subject PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B has sites, and nobody may sleep in them

Dear Martin Heinrich,

I’m a constituent in New Mexico. PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B, Cibola National Forest, New Mexico carries 2 records on the U.S. Forest Service’s own file, every one of them marked day use rather than overnight.

I’m asking you to put one question to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: would they consider opening any of these sites to overnight camping, and if not, why not?

Road trips and camping on public land are part of how this country knows itself. It’s where a lot of people meet the place they live in for the first time, and it has never been something you had to be well off, or well organised six months in advance, to do.

Sent about PINE FLAT PICNIC SITES - A and B (Cibola National Forest, New Mexico) via campanac.com
How we know this · 4
The figures in these drafts: Navy Ford (CVN-78) Class Aircraft Carrier Program: Background and Issues for Congress (CRS Report RS20643) · Updated December 4, 2025 · “The ship’s final procurement cost was $13,316.5 million (i.e., about $13.3 billion) in then-year dollars.”
The figures in these drafts: Salary Table 2026-GS, Incorporating the 1% General Schedule Increase, Effective January 2026 (U.S. Office of Personnel Management) · Effective January 2026 · “Grade 5, Step 1: $34,799 (annual rate, before locality pay).”
The figures in these drafts: Update to Civilian Position Full Fringe Benefit Cost Factor, Federal Pay Raise Assumptions, and Inflation Factors used in OMB Circular No. A-76 (OMB Memorandum M-08-13) · March 11, 2008 · “the civilian position full fringe benefit cost factor needs to be adjusted downward, from 36.45 percent to 36.25 percent”

How we know

every fact on this page, and where it came from
Right now: recreation.gov is offering sites on 15 of the next 15 nights, which isn’t something a closed campground does.
Fall color: More Than Just Parks foliage tracker, joined to this campground by distance (14 km) · Oct 6, 2026
Cell signal: the Forest Service’s own campground description, read as text by CAMPANAC. None of this is a measurement. It’s what the land manager published about the place, and phones, carriers and weather all disagree with each other; treat it as a warning, not a promise.
Nearest place of any size: Cedro, NM, 0.1 mi ESE (a census designated place). Straight line.