U.S. Forest Service · Pisgah National Game Refuge · NC

White Pine South Group Camp

Reservable, and full this SaturdayThe one site on offer is taken this Saturday, and the record lists no site held back for a walk-up. read 14:57 UTC

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Right now
OpenThe agency lists it open
Sites
1All of them booked ahead
Season
Year-roundOpen year-round
2,210 ftElevation
61 ftWater · Avery Creek
2 miN of Brevard, NC
79%Tree cover
Bortle 4Night sky · 62nd darkest of 84 in NC
Open year-roundToday

The place

the agency’s own description · what’s there · 9 notices

In the agency’s own words

White Pine South Group Camp is one of two group campsites nestled along Avery Creek in the lush forests of the Appalachian Mountains. The facility provides tent camping year-round and can accommodate families, scout troops and other groups of up to 25 people. Visitors have access to a number of recreation opportunities, including hiking, swimming, mountain biking, fishing and picnicking, in one of the most scenic areas in the state. Keep reading

Recreation

The forest is known for its hiking and mountain biking trails, several of which are close to the campground. Avery Creek and the Davidson River offer great trout fishing.

Facilities

The site is equipped with picnic tables, vault toilets, lantern posts, campfire rings with grills and drinking water (***DRINKING WATER CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE*** Sorry for the inconvenience).

Natural Features

The campground lies in Pisgah National Forest at an elevation of 2,600 feet. The surrounding land boasts mile-high peaks, cascading waterfalls and slopes thickly forested with hardwoods. The group camping area is adjacent to Avery Creek and near the beautiful Davidson River. Contact Info For facility specific information, please call (828) 577-4910.

Nearby Attractions

The city of Asheville is about an hour away and offers numerous cultural attractions, art galleries, shops and restaurants. The small town of Brevard is also nearby and has various amenities and services.

What the agency tells you

Rule

This is a walk-in, tent-only facility; parking lot is provided. No parking is permitted within the campsite itself and all personal equipment must be walked to the site.

Rule

Absolutely no access is permitted to the site prior to check-in.

Rule

Please bring garbage bags; visitors must remove their own trash. Campsites left in unsatisfactory states may be subject to restrictions of future access to Naventure facilities.

Everything else this campground posts · 6
Rule

Campfires are only permitted in designated fire rings. DO NOT burn any construction refuse materials or material known to have metal objects in it such as nails, screws, etc. Pallets are not allowed!

Rule

Kiln dried firewood is available at Davidson River Campground for $10 (tax included) per bundle. Campfires must be fully extinguished before departure.

Rule

If any assistance is required during your stay, please contact the Group Campground Manager at (828) 577-4910. Or visit Davidson RIver Campground.

Rule

Maximum occupancy for this site is 25 people.

Rule

This campground is managed by Naventure . Nearby Davidson River Campground is a hub and resource for Group Site visitors.

Rule

Don't Move Firewood: Help protect our forests! Prevent the spread of tree-killing pests by obtaining firewood at or near your destination and burning it on-site. Moving firewood is illegal in some states. Visit dontmovefirewood.org to learn more.

Read them on the agency’s own page →

Tents and rigs

Sites
1 · 1 tent-only, 1 group
Hookups
None
Accessible sites
None listed
Pets
Allowed
Campfires
Allowed, barring fire bans
Shade
Every site
Source: Recreation.gov campsite records · Aug 23, 2026

Facilities

Toilets
Vault Toilets
“Facilities The site is equipped with picnic tables, vault toilets, lantern posts, campfire rings with grills and drinking water (***DRINKING WATER CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE*** Sorry for the inconvenience).”
Drinking water
None, bring your own
“Facilities The site is equipped with picnic tables, vault toilets, lantern posts, campfire rings with grills and drinking water (***DRINKING WATER CURRENTLY NOT AVAILABLE*** Sorry for the inconvenience).”
Stay limit
14 nights
recreation.gov facility rule maxStay

Around the campground

On the water
Waterfall, River, Creek
Biking
Fishing
Hiking
Swimming
Fall color · reported 4 days ago, 35 km away
Patchy color
Source: Recreation.gov activity records · Aug 23, 2026
Fall color: More Than Just Parks foliage tracker, joined to this campground by distance (35 km) · Oct 13, 2026

Full this Saturdayread 14:57 UTC

How full the weekend is nationally.

OpenBooked

The one site on offer is taken this Saturday. 1 is free on Tue, Oct 20. read 14:57 UTC Why the weekend fills and the week doesn’t

Booking window6 months outBookable now through April 17, 2027. Tomorrow at 10 AM ET, availability opens through April 18, 2027.recreation.gov
Max stay14 nights2-night minimum on weekendsthe facility record
Sites, a night, from$60From the rate schedule matched to 1 of its 1 sites. U.S. Forest Service publishes no campground-level rate we can read.derived by CAMPANAC
If plans change$10 to cancel$10 to change a reservationrecreation.gov’s schedule
Runs itNaventureA private concessionaire under permit from U.S. Forest Servicethe operator link
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We read recreation.gov once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time a site in your window is free for the nights you asked for.

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Free forever, no booking kickbacks.
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Every line of the receipt · 12

What you actually pay

The sign priceU.S. Forest Service
Sites, a night, from$60
Derived by CAMPANAC from the rate schedule matched to 1 of its 1 sites. U.S. Forest Service publishes no campground-level rate for this campground that we can read, only per-site rate templates its own record matches to each site’s own type.
Group area, a night$60
Rates for the season the campground is in now, Jan 1, 2026 to Dec 31, 2026.
The booking feerecreation.gov
Reservation fee, booked online$8
One fee per reservation, however many nights you book, and it’s non-refundable. $9 if you book by phone, $3 in person.
Pass discounts only apply to the recreation (or use) fee for the facility. Other charges such as electricity or water hookups, reservation or other fees are not eligible for a discount.
What a stay costs
The agency publishes no nightly rate for this campground, so there’s nothing to add the $8 booking fee to. We won’t total a receipt with a number missing from it.
If your plans changerecreation.gov
Change fee, moving to dates outside your booking$10
Cancellation fee$10
Cancelling the day before, or the day of$10 + your first night
No-show$20 + your first night

Who keeps the booking fee

The agency’s own policy text says the reservation fee and the cancellation processing fee are “retained by the reservation service contractor”, and that a campground concessionaire will decline to refund them because “they did not receive these fees”. Recreation.gov is run under contract by Booz Allen Hamilton. What share of your booking fee the contractor keeps isn’t published in any federal dataset we can read, so we print no number for it. Our reporting on the contract →

How we know this receipt · 5

recreation.gov availability, read 14:57 UTC · rules read Sep 9, 2026 · rates Sep 10, 2026 · How we know all this

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The sites

1 sites · the site map

All 1 sites

1 of 1 sites located
Group1
Aerial · Esri World Imagery
SleepsUp to

Toilet distances are OpenStreetMap’s, measured for 1 of the 1 sites listed. A site with no reading is unknown, never far.

The price is derived by CAMPANAC, not published per site: the per-night rate this campground publishes for each site’s own site type. 1 of the 1 sites listed carry one, and a site whose type has no published rate sits out of the price rather than being called free.

Getting there

the map and the coordinate · the agency’s directions · the phone number
Coordinate35.29194, -82.73861
The phone828-552-8040
The agency’s pageOfficial page ↗

Where it is

Getting there

From the Asheville airport, take Highway 280 south to Brevard. Turn right on U.S. Highway 276. Go 1.75 miles to Forest Road 477 and turn right. Go 0.75-mile to the parking area on the right side of the road. Walk across the bridge to the campground entrance road.

The weather

the next four days · the thirty-year normal

Next four days, and the thirty-year normal

Forecast

This Afternoon55°Sunny
Tonight35°Clear
Sunday60°Sunny
Sunday Night36°Clear

NWS forecast for Brevard, NC

Typical weather

Typical October night 43°F, day 69°F.

Coldest month of the year: typical January night 25°F, below freezing. Bring a bag rated colder than that, and expect ice in the water bottle.

90°32°20°

Daily high and lowDays with 0.10 in or more

A normal is the 1991-2020 average for the month, not a forecast: about half of all Julys are colder than the July line. The seven-day forecast above answers the other question.

Measured at: BREVARD, NC (USC00311055), 4 miles away and 35 ft lower

The land, and who answers for it

what threatens it · who answers for it · a letter you can send

What threatens this place

developing
Roadless
South Mills River8,588 acres · 6 mi · inventoried roadless area
Roadless
Graveyard Ridge (addition)1,958 acres · 7 mi · inventoried roadless area
Roadless
Laurel Mountain5,683 acres · 8 mi · inventoried roadless area

You’re camping on ground somebody wants. We track the threats and the comment deadlines.

Source: MTJP Threatened Lands map · Oct 3, 2026

Who answers for this land

Chuck Edwards, official portrait

White Pine South Group Camp is in North Carolina’s 11th congressional district. Its representative, Chuck Edwards (R), votes on the laws that decide what happens to this land. Public-lands grade so far: F. See every public-lands vote →

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Who can change it · 3
Write to somebody who can change it

Two offices, two different asks. The draft to the agency asks it to set aside a published share of the sites here for whoever drives up. The draft to Congress asks why that share is zero and presses for a published minimum at the campgrounds it funds.

Read the draft, or change the wording

For the camper who turned up, or tried to book, and couldn’t get in. Every draft is written from this campground’s own record (its agency, its unit, its site count and its own weekend) and the buttons above copy whichever wording is selected here.

To Chuck Edwards

Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.

Subject Walk-up camping at White Pine South Group Camp, Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina

Dear Chuck Edwards,

I’m a constituent in North Carolina’s 11th district. I tried to camp at White Pine South Group Camp, Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina, and couldn’t.

All 1 sites at White Pine South Group Camp are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, the one site recreation.gov was offering there was already booked.

1,623 of the 7,647 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. White Pine South Group Camp keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule.

I’m not asking you to run White Pine South Group Camp. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund.

The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them.

Sent about White Pine South Group Camp (Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina) via campanac.com
To Ted Budd

Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.

Subject Walk-up camping at White Pine South Group Camp, Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina

Dear Ted Budd,

I’m a constituent in North Carolina. I tried to camp at White Pine South Group Camp, Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina, and couldn’t.

All 1 sites at White Pine South Group Camp are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, the one site recreation.gov was offering there was already booked.

1,623 of the 7,647 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. White Pine South Group Camp keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule.

I’m not asking you to run White Pine South Group Camp. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund.

The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them.

Sent about White Pine South Group Camp (Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina) via campanac.com
To Thom Tillis

Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.

Subject Walk-up camping at White Pine South Group Camp, Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina

Dear Thom Tillis,

I’m a constituent in North Carolina. I tried to camp at White Pine South Group Camp, Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina, and couldn’t.

All 1 sites at White Pine South Group Camp are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, the one site recreation.gov was offering there was already booked.

1,623 of the 7,647 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. White Pine South Group Camp keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule.

I’m not asking you to run White Pine South Group Camp. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund.

The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them.

Sent about White Pine South Group Camp (Pisgah National Game Refuge, North Carolina) via campanac.com
How we know this · 4
The figures in these drafts: Navy Ford (CVN-78) Class Aircraft Carrier Program: Background and Issues for Congress (CRS Report RS20643) · Updated December 4, 2025 · “The ship’s final procurement cost was $13,316.5 million (i.e., about $13.3 billion) in then-year dollars.”
The figures in these drafts: Salary Table 2026-GS, Incorporating the 1% General Schedule Increase, Effective January 2026 (U.S. Office of Personnel Management) · Effective January 2026 · “Grade 5, Step 1: $34,799 (annual rate, before locality pay).”
The figures in these drafts: Update to Civilian Position Full Fringe Benefit Cost Factor, Federal Pay Raise Assumptions, and Inflation Factors used in OMB Circular No. A-76 (OMB Memorandum M-08-13) · March 11, 2008 · “the civilian position full fringe benefit cost factor needs to be adjusted downward, from 36.45 percent to 36.25 percent”

How we know

every fact on this page, and where it came from
Right now: The agency lists it open right now.
Fall color: More Than Just Parks foliage tracker, joined to this campground by distance (35 km) · Oct 13, 2026
Cell signal: the Forest Service’s own campground description, read as text by CAMPANAC. None of this is a measurement. It’s what the land manager published about the place, and phones, carriers and weather all disagree with each other; treat it as a warning, not a promise.