U.S. Forest Service · Nantahala National Forest · NC

Rattler Ford Group Campground

Reservable, and full this SaturdayEvery one of the 4 sites on offer is taken this Saturday, and the record lists no site held back for a walk-up. read 16:36 UTC

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Right now
OpenThe agency lists it open
Sites
4All of them booked ahead
Season
April 15 – October 31Open April 15 through October 31
30 ftLongest rig
2,080 ftElevation
205 ftWater · Santeetlah Creek
11.5 miNW of Andrews, NC
74%Tree cover
Open April 15 through October 31Today

The place

the agency’s own description · what’s there · 4 notices

In the agency’s own words

Rattler Ford Group Campground sits near the swift-moving Santeetlah Creek in the Nantahala National Forest. Groups of up to 25 guests can enjoy the creek, which is popular for fly fishing, as well as nearby Lake Santeetlah, which provides countless water sports and activities. Keep reading

Recreation

The campground is located about 2.5 miles from the Avey Branch boat ramp at Lake Santeetlah, which provides visitors access to all types of water-related activities, including fishing, boating, and canoeing. Horseshoe pits and volleyball courts are available within the campground. Visitors can also enjoy a variety of hiking trails and scenic drives in the area.

Facilities

The campground offers four sites, each with varying facilities, but all able to accommodate several tents and up to 25 guests. Multiple tables are available at each site, as well as lantern posts and campfire pits. Each site also provides an oversized grill. Flush toilets and drinking water are provided at the campground, as well as hot showers. Some of the sites are situated near the creek.

Natural Features

Large trees and thick forests provide moderate shade for the campground, while vast meadows also allow for sunshine and open play. Nantahala is a Cherokee word meaning "land of the noonday sun," which is appropriate, as the sun only reaches the deep gorges of the western North Carolina mountains and valleys at midday.

Nearby Attractions

The entrance to Joyce Kilmer-Slickrock Wilderness, which contains nearly 17,000 acres, and Joyce Kilmer Memorial Forest, containing nearly 6,000 acres of old-growth forest, is located approximately 1/4 mile from the campground.

What the agency tells you

Rule

Off-road vehicle use is not permitted

Rule

Senior access pass is not accepted at this campground

Rule

Electric, water or sewer hookups are not provided

Everything else this campground posts · 1
Rule

Don't Move Firewood: Help protect our forests! Prevent the spread of tree-killing pests by obtaining firewood at or near your destination and burning it on-site. Moving firewood is illegal in some states. Visit dontmovefirewood.org to learn more.

Read them on the agency’s own page →

Tents and rigs

Sites
4 · 4 tent-only, 4 group
Hookups
None
Longest rig
30 ft
Accessible sites
None listed
Campfires
Allowed, barring fire bans
Shade
Every site
Source: Recreation.gov campsite records · Aug 23, 2026

Facilities

Toilets
Flush Toilets
“…site also provides an oversized grill. Flush toilets and drinking water are provided at the campground,…”
Showers
Yes, the record doesn’t say what kind
“Flush toilets and drinking water are provided at the campground, as well as hot showers.”
Drinking water
Yes
“…an oversized grill. Flush toilets and drinking water are provided at the campground, as well as hot…”
Boat ramp
Yes
Camp host
On site
recreation.gov lists “Host”
Source: Stated in the agency description · Aug 23, 2026
Water, toilets and showers: read from the agency description, shown above · Sep 12, 2026

Around the campground

On the water
Lake, Creek, Meadow
Backpacking
Birding
Fishing
Hiking
Water access
Wildlife viewing
Night sky · 15th darkest of 84 in NC
Bortle 4
Fall color · reported 5 days ago, 37 km away
Minimal color
Source: Recreation.gov activity records · Aug 23, 2026
Fall color: More Than Just Parks foliage tracker, joined to this campground by distance (37 km) · Oct 12, 2026

Full this Saturdayread 16:36 UTC

How full the weekend is nationally.

2 campgrounds have sites open within 30 miles, read 16:34 UTC. See them

OpenBooked

Every one of the 4 sites on offer is taken this Saturday. 4 are free on Wed, Oct 21. read 16:36 UTC Why the weekend fills and the week doesn’t

Booking windowThrough November 1Bookable now through November 1, 2026, the end of this reservable season, and again for April 15, 2027 through April 16, 2027. Today at 10 AM ET, availability opens through April 17, 2027.recreation.gov
Max stay7 nightsthe facility record
Sites, a night, from$75From the rate schedule matched to 4 of its 4 sites. U.S. Forest Service publishes no campground-level rate we can read.derived by CAMPANAC
If plans change$10 to cancel$10 to change a reservationrecreation.gov’s schedule
Runs itU.S. Forest ServiceBooked through recreation.govthe agency’s record
Watch for a cancellation

Watch this campground

One email when a night opens, plus More Than Just Parks dispatches. Unsubscribe any time.

We read recreation.gov once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time a site in your window is free for the nights you asked for.

Scanners that check every few minutes exist, and most of them charge. This one is free, it reads the same calendar, and it won’t always be first.

Free forever, no booking kickbacks.
Tell me when the season opens

Watch for the season to open

One email when the season goes on sale, plus More Than Just Parks dispatches. Unsubscribe any time.

We check once an hour, at 40 minutes past, and write the first time the agency has that season on sale.

Scanners that check every few minutes exist, and most of them charge. This one is free, it reads the same calendar, and it won’t always be first.

We’ll write once, when the season that starts Thu, Apr 15 2027 is open for booking.

Free forever, no booking kickbacks.
Where there’s room this weekendBook on recreation.gov ↗

We make nothing when you book. The link goes straight to the government.

Every line of the receipt · 12

What you actually pay

The sign priceU.S. Forest Service
Sites, a night, from$75
Derived by CAMPANAC from the rate schedule matched to 4 of its 4 sites. U.S. Forest Service publishes no campground-level rate for this campground that we can read, only per-site rate templates its own record matches to each site’s own type.
Group area, a night$75
Rates for the season the campground is in now, Apr 15, 2026 to Nov 1, 2026.
The booking feerecreation.gov
Reservation fee, booked online$8
One fee per reservation, however many nights you book, and it’s non-refundable. $9 if you book by phone, $3 in person.
Pass discounts only apply to the recreation (or use) fee for the facility. Other charges such as electricity or water hookups, reservation or other fees are not eligible for a discount.
What a stay costs
The agency publishes no nightly rate for this campground, so there’s nothing to add the $8 booking fee to. We won’t total a receipt with a number missing from it.
If your plans changerecreation.gov
Change fee, moving to dates outside your booking$10
Cancellation fee$10
Cancelling the day before, or the day of$10 + your first night
No-show$20 + your first night

Who keeps the booking fee

The agency’s own policy text says the reservation fee and the cancellation processing fee are “retained by the reservation service contractor”, and that a campground concessionaire will decline to refund them because “they did not receive these fees”. Recreation.gov is run under contract by Booz Allen Hamilton. What share of your booking fee the contractor keeps isn’t published in any federal dataset we can read, so we print no number for it. Our reporting on the contract →

How we know this receipt · 5
Open within 30 miles this weekend · 2

Sites the agency is offering this Friday and Saturday that nobody has taken, nearest first. read 16:34 UTC

recreation.gov availability, read 16:36 UTC · rules read Sep 9, 2026 · rates Sep 10, 2026 · How we know all this

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The sites

4 sites · which ones have room · the site map

The sites, ranked

from 4 mapped sites
140 ftbetween you and the next site, typically
Least roomLoop RFGC 002 103 ftLoop RFGC 003 103 ftLoop RFGC 001 177 ft

All 4 sites

4 of 4 sites located
Group4
Aerial · Esri World Imagery
SleepsUp to

The price is derived by CAMPANAC, not published per site: the per-night rate this campground publishes for each site’s own site type. 4 of the 4 sites listed carry one, and a site whose type has no published rate sits out of the price rather than being called free.

Measured shade is NLCD Tree Canopy Cover 2024 (USDA Forest Service / MRLC) read at the site’s own coordinate, 27% canopy or more, and only for the sites the agency gave no Shade value. It never changes the agency’s own shaded count beside it.

RFGC001group tent only area nonelectric30 ft177 ft287 ft$75
RFGC002group tent only area nonelectric30 ft103 ft204 ft$75
RFGC003group tent only area nonelectric30 ft103 ft100 ft$75
RFGC004group tent only area nonelectric30 ft198 ft108 ft$75

OpenStreetMap has no toilet mapped within 1 km of this campground, so no site here carries a toilet distance. That’s a gap in the map, not a finding about the campground.

Getting there

the map and the coordinate · the agency’s directions · the phone number
Coordinate35.36060, -83.91563
The phone828-479-6431
The agency’s pageOfficial page ↗

Where it is

Getting there

From Robbinsville, North Carolina, take Highway 129 north to 143 West/Massey Branch Road. Pass the Cheoah Ranger District office and continue to the stop sign. Turn right to continue on 143 West for about 7 miles. Rattler Ford Group Campground is on the left.

The weather

the next four days · the thirty-year normal

Next four days, and the thirty-year normal

Forecast

Overnight40°Slight Chance Rain Showers24% rain
Saturday53°Slight Chance Rain Showers then Partly Sunny21% rain
Saturday Night32°Mostly Clear then Areas Of Frost1% rain
Sunday65°Areas Of Frost then Sunny

NWS forecast for Lake Santeetlah, NC

Typical weather

Typical October night 46°F, day 70°F.

Coldest night of the open season: typical April night 44°F. Bring the bag rated for it.

90°32°20°

Daily high and lowDays with 0.10 in or moreOutside the published season

A normal is the 1991-2020 average for the month, not a forecast: about half of all Julys are colder than the July line. The seven-day forecast above answers the other question.

Measured at: TAPOCO, NC (USC00318492), 6 miles away and 970 ft lower

The land, and who answers for it

what threatens it · who answers for it · a letter you can send

Roadless country, and what’s coming for it

Roadless
Deep Creek / Avery Creek Addition1,908 acres · 2 mi · inventoried roadless area
Roadless
Snowbird8,489 acres · 6 mi · inventoried roadless area
Roadless
Yellowhammer Branch (add.)1,255 acres · 7 mi · inventoried roadless area

You’re camping on ground somebody wants. We track the threats and the comment deadlines.

Who answers for this land

Chuck Edwards, official portrait

Rattler Ford Group Campground is in North Carolina’s 11th congressional district. Its representative, Chuck Edwards (R), votes on the laws that decide what happens to this land. Public-lands grade so far: F. See every public-lands vote →

Seen something wrong here? Tell us.

Who can change it · 3
Write to somebody who can change it

Two offices, two different asks. The draft to the agency asks it to set aside a published share of the sites here for whoever drives up. The draft to Congress asks why that share is zero and presses for a published minimum at the campgrounds it funds.

Read the draft, or change the wording

For the camper who turned up, or tried to book, and couldn’t get in. Every draft is written from this campground’s own record (its agency, its unit, its site count and its own weekend) and the buttons above copy whichever wording is selected here.

To Chuck Edwards

Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.

Subject Walk-up camping at Rattler Ford Group Campground, Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina

Dear Chuck Edwards,

I’m a constituent in North Carolina’s 11th district. I tried to camp at Rattler Ford Group Campground, Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina, and couldn’t.

All 4 sites at Rattler Ford Group Campground are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, all 4 sites recreation.gov was offering there were already booked.

1,623 of the 7,647 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. Rattler Ford Group Campground keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule.

I’m not asking you to run Rattler Ford Group Campground. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund.

The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them.

Sent about Rattler Ford Group Campground (Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina) via campanac.com
To Ted Budd

Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.

Subject Walk-up camping at Rattler Ford Group Campground, Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina

Dear Ted Budd,

I’m a constituent in North Carolina. I tried to camp at Rattler Ford Group Campground, Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina, and couldn’t.

All 4 sites at Rattler Ford Group Campground are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, all 4 sites recreation.gov was offering there were already booked.

1,623 of the 7,647 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. Rattler Ford Group Campground keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule.

I’m not asking you to run Rattler Ford Group Campground. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund.

The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them.

Sent about Rattler Ford Group Campground (Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina) via campanac.com
To Thom Tillis

Asks them to put the question to the agency in writing, and to press for a published minimum share of walk-up sites across the campgrounds they fund.

Subject Walk-up camping at Rattler Ford Group Campground, Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina

Dear Thom Tillis,

I’m a constituent in North Carolina. I tried to camp at Rattler Ford Group Campground, Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina, and couldn’t.

All 4 sites at Rattler Ford Group Campground are reservable, and the agency's own record lists none held back for somebody who drives up. On Saturday, October 17, all 4 sites recreation.gov was offering there were already booked.

1,623 of the 7,647 federal campgrounds in this country still keep at least some sites for whoever arrives first. Rattler Ford Group Campground keeps none, and that’s a choice somebody made rather than a rule.

I’m not asking you to run Rattler Ford Group Campground. I’m asking you to put it to the U.S. Forest Service in writing: why is the share of first-come sites there zero, and what would a published minimum share cost? Please press for that minimum at the federal campgrounds you fund.

The people who open these campgrounds, collect the fees and keep the water running are seasonal positions. At GS-5, base pay plus the government's own 36.25% benefit factor, one costs about $47,414 a year. One percent of the $13.3 billion the USS Gerald R. Ford cost to procure would pay for about 2,800 of them for a year. Both figures are the government's own (a Congressional Research Service report and an OPM pay table), and I’m glad to send them.

Sent about Rattler Ford Group Campground (Nantahala National Forest, North Carolina) via campanac.com
How we know this · 4
The figures in these drafts: Navy Ford (CVN-78) Class Aircraft Carrier Program: Background and Issues for Congress (CRS Report RS20643) · Updated December 4, 2025 · “The ship’s final procurement cost was $13,316.5 million (i.e., about $13.3 billion) in then-year dollars.”
The figures in these drafts: Salary Table 2026-GS, Incorporating the 1% General Schedule Increase, Effective January 2026 (U.S. Office of Personnel Management) · Effective January 2026 · “Grade 5, Step 1: $34,799 (annual rate, before locality pay).”
The figures in these drafts: Update to Civilian Position Full Fringe Benefit Cost Factor, Federal Pay Raise Assumptions, and Inflation Factors used in OMB Circular No. A-76 (OMB Memorandum M-08-13) · March 11, 2008 · “the civilian position full fringe benefit cost factor needs to be adjusted downward, from 36.45 percent to 36.25 percent”

How we know

every fact on this page, and where it came from
Right now: The agency lists it open right now.
Fall color: More Than Just Parks foliage tracker, joined to this campground by distance (37 km) · Oct 12, 2026
Cell signal: the Forest Service’s own campground description, read as text by CAMPANAC. None of this is a measurement. It’s what the land manager published about the place, and phones, carriers and weather all disagree with each other; treat it as a warning, not a promise.
Nearest place of any size: Lake Santeetlah, NC, 2.3 mi W. Straight line.